Posted: 09 December 2005 at 11:38am | IP Logged

I doubt these are allowed, by by god it would make things easier!!!

http://www.paragon-products.com/product_p/pp_944ccp.htm

Gazza

Posted: 09 December 2005 at 12:00pm | IP Logged

Reply to mail post by David 'radical' Frankland....

Posted: 09 December 2005 at 12:02pm | IP Logged

Any comments peeps???

I dont see this as a 'performance' improvement - it just means that you dont need to crawl under the car 5 times over to adjst your front camber settings - we all know how much of a pain that is given the low height of the cars!

Gazza

Posted: 09 December 2005 at 1:21pm | IP Logged

Hi Everyone

I dont think David is right on this one.  The regs specifically say (Section 5):

Posted: 09 December 2005 at 2:16pm | IP Logged

Bowing to Martins greater knowledge....

All the world loves a smart arse especially when he's wrong........

Don't be afraid to propose changes though if you want them.

David #91

Posted: 09 December 2005 at 2:18pm | IP Logged

I agree to some extent;

While we all want the most reliable and powerful cars on the grid,

where do you draw the line?

This is supposed to be a relatively in expensive series and to push and develop the cars further would create too big a gap and bring in the old saying of " guy with most money has best car syndrome".

Theres always the Michelin Cup!!!!!!

Lets keep it simple.

It already provides a fantastic event which is great to watch and provides the stepping stone into other series where you can fill your boots regarding mods.

Cheers

Posted: 09 December 2005 at 2:20pm | IP Logged

Having said all that......

Safety, reliabilty and practicality should NOT be dismissed and therfore I agree with mods that offer this.

P.s.

Is a 2.5 Turbo engine allowed!!

Posted: 09 December 2005 at 2:37pm | IP Logged

I have a great knack for getting you guys to debate!!!!

According to his website, Bainbridge must have one of those 2.5 Turbo engines!

Gazza

Posted: 10 December 2005 at 12:27am | IP Logged

This point about oil coolers keeps coming up. I thought we were allowed to fit them. Quoting the regs:

5.7.4 Cooling System:The fitting of additional cooling systems within the bodywork is permitted.

I took that to mean that you can fit an oil cooler.....particularly as the next sentence in that paragraph says "Oil sump baffles and modified sump oil-pick-up are permitted" so clearly, when that regulation was written, they were thinking about the oil system.

If we aren't allowed to have them we should be. They are a cheap way of extending the life of your engine without giving a performance advantage....so if you can already keep your oil and engine cool without one, you won't need to fit one just to keep up.

....just a newbie expressing an opinion (and can't you tell I have already bought an oil cooler and wondering what to do with it if it's not allowed......)

Andy

Posted: 10 December 2005 at 12:40am | IP Logged

Just another thought on oil coolers. They actually pay for themselves. If you cook your oil every race to the point where the oil pressure starts to fade over the last few laps, the oil will degrade to such an extent that you really ought to change it every race, or risk a big breakage. That's £40.00 + each time, if you are using Mobil1. If the oil never exceeds its operating temperature, you can let it go 3 to 4 races between changes which will save you about £350.00 over a season....and an oil cooler doesn't cost that much!

Sorry....brain is overheating now......

Andy (Davies)